Tema Staig Photo: Reggie Burrows Hodges for the Bluestocking Series |
Women in Media hosts regular networking events and supports women-focused screenings and film festivals, like Seeking Our Story, Etheria Film Night, and Bluestocking Film Festival. It also created the annual #AltOscarParty which invites everyone who believes more women should be included by the Academy to skip the ceremony, have a nice dinner with drinks, and watch movies directed and created by women. And, with Seeking Our Story, Women in Media encourages women to review women-directed films on Rotten Tomatoes and offers to amplify their reviews.
Most recently, Tema created the Women In Media Crew List (#WiMCrewList), as a resource for all those who want women in their crew. Any woman, wherever in the world she works, can request an invitation to sign herself up to the list’s Google doc, which has tabs for 25 crew departments and a tab for resources (details below).
How did you get into producing and production design? And who were your role models?
I think my early experiences, having few people to guide me has shaped my desire to help women get a leg up in the industry. It takes time and effort to build a network of supporters if you aren't born into the business.
I started as an art and lighting director for night clubs at a young age. I went to school for fine art and started doing scenic art for theater to improve my skills. This entailed translating other people's vision and was highly technical. Painting and sculpting for theater was great, but I wanted to do more than translating other people's ideas. I wanted to be the person coming up with the visual language, creating 1/4" models and elevations as opposed to the technician. I've always drawn and loved theater, so it was a natural route for me to take.
When I first started, I was very naive about the business. I called theaters up and down the US east coast to see if anyone would hire me to design. Everyone said, "Who are you? Yeah.... go back to grad school." So, I did. After 3 grueling years at NYU, I realized that I also think cinematically. I should have known, having taken six film history classes in undergrad, but no one talked about production designers. We never discussed any position beyond writing, directing, producing, or cinematography, which is a real shame. I think women have a lot to gain by working in creative and technical jobs below the line.
After leaving NYU, I designed for film, commercials, and theater. After I art directed Kissing Jessica Stein, I got a fellowship with The Independent Feature Project in New York. Through them, I got to meet Patrizia Von Brandenstein
What was the catalyst for starting Women in Media? Did you always intend the organisation to focus on film rather than television and other media?
WiM started as a women in film group LA Film School where I was teaching. Gabrielle Kelly
As faculty advisor, I discovered that there was a real need for women to have a community where they weren't discriminated against by the guys at the school. The group got so large and popular that guys started complaining that there wasn't a group for them. Of course there is, it's called 'The Film Industry'.
I met Samantha Shada of Seeking Our Story, and went to her screening of The Piano by Jane Campion. I offered to join forces with her to bring more folks to her screenings and grow WiM networking to the greater LA community. It's a terrific partnership! We've built a community of women and likeminded men who really love working together and referring each other. We also get to learn more about women directors of historical significance and see their films. Women have been in the film industry since the beginning, but you'd never know it from the way the history is told. We need to change this, as it discourages people from taking women seriously.
Who helps you and in what ways? What roles do your partner organisations play?
WiM is more about getting women film makers visible and working than asking for help ourselves. We bring our unique networking format to support women focused events. They attract a greater audience who otherwise might not have had that awareness.
We have a large social media following, so we're approached by festivals for promotional sponsorship fairly often. We're able to say that we'll participate if, say, there is an opening night film directed by a woman, they have parity or close in their programming, or if they have a 50/50 (or better) panel. Festivals that previously struggled to find women did indeed find them, and we are thrilled to join forces when that happens.
Why are women-focused screenings and film festivals important?
Until women are no longer marginalized and their work is no longer swept under the rug, I'm afraid that we do need women's festivals and screenings for visibility. As a rule, people in the US don't give women credit for their work – it's systemic. It permeates every aspect of society. For example, a director friend was lamenting that she and her a.d. husband were talking to another, male, director who proceeded to ask her husband questions about HER film. She was right there! I ask you, WTF?
Think of it this way, Most people can name tons of women actors because of the women's track at award shows. Most people cannot name more than one or two women directors (if that) because they are left out of the single track director category. They get very little exposure. This is true of every category at award shows. Visibility translates into jobs. We need places to be seen and heard, and frankly, it's not happening in the cineplex or major award shows – yet. If Boyhood could get nominated and win awards, then American Honey should be in the running as well.
The good news is that more and more festivals are reaching parity. It's a question of being 'woke' as the kids say. I applaud festivals for attaining parity and I hope it will become a habit. Maybe it will rub off on The Academy with enough public discussion. I would love for women's festivals to become a 'quaint' idea. I would love to be put out of business because people are no longer sexist.
I’m intrigued that you’ve now partnered with the European Independent Film Festival (
How is a partnership with a general international film festival outside the US different than your partnerships with women's groups within the US? What does it involve? Who benefits and how?
We aim to help build awareness for women-friendly events whether we are able to participate in person, or via social media. It's good for us because they help spread the word about the #WiMCrewList and we help spread the word about women at their festivals. It's always better when we can be there in person, but cross-promotion is also good. Members of both of our communities benefit from this partnership and exposure. We hope to have more international partnerships in the near future.
When EIFF approached us, we had questions about parity as we always do. They are run mostly by women, feature lots of women directed films, have workshops aimed at women, and an award for women. We would like to have a more international presence, so it made sense.
Conversely, we were approached by a different group who had a women's event, so it would, on paper, look like a good fit. We checked out the rest of their programming, and they all but completely ignored women for every other event they did throughout the year. We had a difficult conversation, but a valuable one, I think. We offered to join them when their practices changed. If they could find great films by women for one month, surely they could find great films at a 50/50 ratio throughout the year?
The #WiMCrewList is perhaps a natural extension of the networking that you’re so good at? When you wrote about it in Women & Hollywood, in 'The Case for Gender-Blanced Crews' you argued that the ‘top-down’ approach, focusing on women directors, producers, actors, and writers hasn’t worked, over decades, and that it’s important to hire ‘not just from the top down but also from the bottom up in order to create sustained meaningful change’. Your goal is to normalise a 50 percent average of women crew on every set. The
This is the exciting part!
High profile directors and producers are asking us for access. We love that studios and bigger budget indies are beginning to use the list to hire more women, just as our indie men and women are. We are grateful for all the people who have shared the list via social media and peer to peer.
We encourage folks to take pictures of women doing their crew jobs and tagging @WomenNMedia. We'll retweet. This is great PR for any production as consumers are very socially conscious. #GrabYourWallet is a thing, and that goes for movies and t.v. shows too.
What's #GrabYourWallet?
After Donald Trump's Grab 'em by the pussy video was exposed, Shannon Coulter started a very effective online boycott, suitably titled #GrabYourWallet. This was a great way for frustrated American women to use their power of the purchase against Trump family businesses. She did it with a website, a Google doc, and social media posts that quickly went viral. People called businesses to let them know they were cutting up their credit cards until they dumped Trump products and they shopped elsewhere. As a result, Nordstrom, a large chain store, dropped the Ivanka Trump label due to poor sales performance months later. On line activism can be powerful when it inspires people to on the ground action.
In that W&H article, you also observed that women make films in every crew position at the lower budget levels and ‘our biggest disconnect comes with bigger budget indies and studio projects that repeatedly do not hire women’. Women have the same talents and experience as their male counterparts, but ‘don’t get hired below the line, whether it’s due to stubborn lack of will, knowledge, or effort on the part of those doing the hiring’. Do you have a view on the federal EEOC investigation into Hollywood’s failure to employ women directors? If it’s successful, do you think it will make a difference to Hollywood’s employment of below the line crew?
Yes. Maria Geise who started this investigation is dedicated to gender equality on set. This investigation is necessary, as the studios have historically talked about gender equality, and hired only a few token women. In the end, it's utter bullshit. They have initiatives that don't lead to meaningful jobs or pitches. They basically give lip service to equality as Paramount and 20th Century Fox
The Studios can use the #WiMCrewList to hire more women in the crew. It's not that hard, they just have to find the will to do it. If they have a problem doing so, they need to do some soul searching and figure out how to correct that problem. That being said, most corporations do not change out of the goodness of their hearts. They only change their culture when their consumers take a stand.
You also referred to the hiring of women directors by Ava DuVernay and others. Ava DuVernay also has an inclusive crew policy. Has the timing of the #WiMCrewList been ‘just right’, in an historical moment when we may be reaching a tipping point that normalises women’s equal participation in onscreen storytelling?
We like to think so. It won't happen without persistent pressure from multiple sources. Ava is a great role model for the industry, and others are following her lead. Surely studio heads are embarrassed by their lack of parity and inclusion. By pointing this out and tagging studios on social media, they will be forced to evolve.
You’re a working producer and production designer. It seems to me that part of your brilliance is that the #AltOscarParty and The Crew list invite participation, so don’t require a lot of ongoing time investment from you. Is that so? But the networking events and screenings must do, because each event and screening is a new-and-different one. How do manage all that you do?
Busy people tend to make themselves even busier, it seems! I'm a fidgety person who gets bored easily, so I like having multiple projects going. I have specific times when I answer emails for WiM and do that organizing. WiM events are very social, so I get spend time with my friends and make new ones, so it doesn't feel like a burden. I'm also really fortunate to have help from our partner organizations. It's very grass roots.
Speaking of.... our next event is the #MayDay17
What advice do you have for others who want to develop similar projects?
Research well. You may think you have a unique idea for a need that no one is addressing, but that might not be accurate. You don't want to be redundant if someone else is already tackling that need. Instead, join forces.
Often, women worry about activism affecting their work opportunities. Has yours?
No. Feminism is good for everyone. If you are being retaliated against at work, you need to form a union
What drives you forward? Have you an endpoint in mind?
I want to put myself out of business. I want women to have an equal seat at the table so I can retire and just talk about movies all day without feeling the need to expose folks to Alice Guy Blache (first narrative film maker, not first woman narrative film maker, first narrative film maker, full stop). Lotte Reiniger (first animated feature director, full stop). Dorothy Arzner (Paramount's first talkie director and creator of the boom mike). When these three women are given their rightful place in the canon and taught in every film school, I can think about retiring.
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Research from the legendary Martha Lauzen (in 2016) shows that where women direct, they are more likely than men to employ women on their crews.Martha Lauzen Celluloid Ceiling Report 2016 |
But — thanks to Tema’s #WiMCrewList and increased awareness and pressure — that’s changing. We’re more welcome. And it’s up to all of us #womeninfilm to list ourselves if we want work and to tell our mates about the #WiMCrewList — regardless of whether they hire or want to be hired?
There are other crew lists, as well.
In the UK – the Barb Crew, on Facebook and Twitter.
'Barb, the online collective for women in film. A platform where professionals can connect, work together and ultimately raise each other up.
Producers, directors, editors, designers, animators... We know you’re out there, they know you’re out there.
Let’s make it so easy to find you there won’t be an excuse not to.
Working in partnership with other organisations, Barb. aims to create an online database which can provide easily searchable contact information of women in the UK film or television industry, free of charge. With only 20% of the six key roles in films produced in the UK in 2015 going to women, we are determined to level the playing field.'
It uses a Google doc to register.
And four for cinematographers–
Illuminatrix, a collective of professional female cinematographers based in the UK and working internationally, with the most gorgeous Instagram feed where individuals choose and talk about images, and on Twitter and Facebook;
The International Collective of Female Cinematographers, which also has an extraordinary Instagram feed and is on Twitter;
In the US, contact CinematographersXX here, on Facebook and on Twitter; and,
In India, the Indian Women Cinematographers Collective.
Finally, there's The Director List (Facebook, Twitter) and the Directed by Women (Facebook, Twitter) sites.
I love them all, in all their diversity. Let me know if you have another list to add?
WIM is unfortunately one of the predatory organizations that's taking advantage of women in the industry, unfortunately. There are some fantastic organizations out there not charging women and perpetuating elite feminism like WIM, which are far more worthy of celebrating.
ReplyDeleteHi kiaora.bro I'm a bit puzzled by your comment. How do you think that WIM is taking advantage of women in the industry? And can you name organisations that help without charging? Women have to pay a subscription to WIFT for instance. What's your take on the other organisations listed here?
ReplyDeleteWIM is one of several organizations who target underrepresented people, often those struggling to build a career, and demand exorbitant amounts of money for things that are unnecessary, unhelpful and in fact, often free to attend (like floor passes to NAB).
DeleteThere are several organizations who do real work and don't charge for it. I am in the world of below-the-line, so I am most familiar with those in my field. Below the line is where women and minorities are least represented, most likely to experience sexual harassment, and the pay gap is the widest. WIM does not offer anything to women below the line.
Blue Collar Post Collective is one organization that does not charge for membership nor participation. They work hard to offer a wide range of practical services for people across the spectrum of the industry, but mostly technical and below-the-line. They published a research paper last year outlining some of the ways in which pay-to-play "diversity" initiatives have failed people in the industry and a set of practical steps to change this. Unfortunately it won't make anyone rich. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8281405/
Research also shows that women and minorities are the least likely to hire or promote other women and minorities. This is why intersectionality and systemic change are essential. This will not happen if exclusive, elite white feminism continues to dominate the discourse (and the funding).
There is this free and accessible list for women who want to participate in PR and panels https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdtPzzI5FGx-sgOyEMxNMJTc2mYtCABz1h80_gJ1XglqhSckA/viewform?usp=sf_link and this one offering advice to those who feel they need some guidance before putting their hand up https://manelsinpost.wordpress.com/speak/ The PR list is distributed to the organizers of every industry conference, annually.
There are orgs like WIFT who offer accessible and affordable options for membership, and do work in the industry that is valuable. Then there's those like WIM who use feminism to get rich, and host $300 brunches yet do nothing for women working in the industry.
PS I’ve just read an article that cites Martha Lauzen’s work. Her stats show ‘how a woman director (not a woman producer) boosts the number of women on the set: on films with exclusively male directors, women accounted for only 15% of editors and 5% of cinematographers. On films with female directors, the percentages of women editors rose to 35%, and cinematographers to 26%.’ (https://www.rogerebert.com/chazs-blog/it-takes-an-army)
DeleteThank you so much. I'm delighted to have this information and to learn about the Blue Collar Collective (and found the Blue Collar Collective article outside a paywall, here https://static1.squarespace.com/static/556486bee4b0b17b146c5c3a/t/59ffa70d0852295261ca469f/1509926672921/WhyDiversityProgramsFail-Pena-Hinsen-Wilbur-SMPTEATC2017.pdf) I know that historically here in Aotearoa NZ (white) women producers tend to hire (white) men, but I think that's changing, although inclusive access to taxpayer funding is a way off and I still hear decision makers saying things like 'women aren't confident enough'. At a global level amazing people like Ava DuVernay are certainly making changes with inclusive crews and that's making a difference. But there's still lots to be done and I agree with you that intersectionality and systemic change are essential.
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